Thucydides: Warrior Poet from the Heroic Age
In Thucydides’ account of the Peloponnesian War the powerful Greek city-state of Athens made an ultimatum to the tiny island of Melos: surrender or be destroyed. It was part of a larger war between Athens and Sparta, and the island of Melos had hoped to remain neutral and avoid the conflict, relying on Sparta to protect them.
Attempting to remain neutral was no defense against the hostile Athenians. The Melians, outnumbered and outgunned, attempted diplomacy, debate and appealing to reason and emotion. None of them worked. The Athenians were insistent that only two outcomes were possible for the Melians: surrender or destruction. The left the Melians with the telling message: ‘The strong do as they can and the weak suffer what they must.’
The Melians refused to submit. The Athenians set siege to the city and eventually overran the Melians and executed every man and enslaved every woman and child. The population was replaced by Athenian colonists. They chose fighting and an honourable death over submission, but ultimately they were destroyed. The Melian culture was gone. The few survivors only returned to their home many years later after Sparta finally defeated the Athenians. On the day the Athenians came for them the only thing that could have saved them was strength.
Why We Do Not Debate With The Left
Remaining neutral, like our political moderates, does not work. Debate and reason do not work. The only thing that can save us is strength. The strong do as they can.
We do not debate with the left. They want to entangle us in circular arguments. We do not do what they want. We will not debate them out of existence. We will physically remove them from our society.
Debating, pleading, bargaining and protesting are inherently feminine, leftist and come from a position of weakness. We are not the weak, they are. We are the strong. We do what we want and they will bend to our will or be destroyed.
The strong have no need for debate. The strong do not seek approval for their actions, they just act.
Merely by engaging in debate one lowers oneself to the leftist position of weakness. By debating you project the image that you are not strong enough to enforce your will upon your enemies. We are the strong. The only conversation we will have with the left will be ultimatums.
The time you spend arguing with leftists is wasted. Leftists are weak and ugly people who need the crutch of big, progressive government. They love arguing, and the attention and feeling of moral superiority it grants them. We shall no longer give them what they want. Withdrawing from pointless arguments with leftists serves two purposes. Firstly, it frees up time we can use to focus on improving ourselves. Secondly, the leftists’ need for debate, attention and moral superiority will cause them to bicker amongst themselves.
Imagine if suddenly, overnight, the left had nobody to talk to. Complete radio silence. Imagine that they were left screaming into the void, and how soon it would be before the Muslims turn on the gays and the blacks turned on the feminists. And us, without their whining and distractions, we are out there growing stronger.
Without us to concentrate on, the left will eat itself and then we will physically remove whatever is left of them from our society.
The left have suppressed and criminalised dissent and honest debate. They have perverted the use of language with political correctness and the law to make reasoning with them impossible. They use the law to penalise objectionable but free speech and those who question them and their agenda. They claim to be peaceful, but demand the government use violence to injure, imprison and destroy the livelihoods of those who oppose them. Their idea of conversation is a one way re-education. By making debate pointless and protest impossible they have dug their own graves. When violence comes to them it will be entirely their fault.
Rule One of the Iron Legion: We do not debate with the left.